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HP
- Tom/reallynicethings
- Tom/Dumbledore (oh, shut up. wrinkled old man testicles can be cute; they'll just look like naked, sagging wriggly mice or something)
- Percy/Tom
- Ginny/Percy
- Percy/Ginny
- James/Sirius
- Lucius/James
- Remius/Sirius (not in a very fandom sense, though, because most of the fics that I read don't agree with the way it is in my head and therefore are WRONG)
- Remus/Tonks
- Remus/Fenrir
Naruto
- Sasuke/Naruto
- Sasuke/Itachi
- Kakashi/Sasuke
- Kakashi/Kabuto (oh, it shames and burns, it burns)
- Gaara Gaara Gaara does he count as being a pairing in and of himself because he's a symbiotic entity?
- Hyuugacest, biiiitches
Misc
- X-Files: Mulder/Krycek
- X-Files: Mulder/Scully
- Gundamn Wing, no that is not a typo: Heero/Quatre
- Gundamn Wing: Treize/Zechs
- FF7: Cloud/Sephiroth. Fuck all of you bitches with your elitism and snobbery and canon plausibility.
- Hikago: Hikaru/Touya. DUH.
- Star Trek, The Next Generation: This is embarrassing to admit, but -- Troi/Riker. Come on.
- Star Trek, Voyager: Harry Kim/B'Elanna Torres.
- Star Trek, Enterprise: Archer/Tucker
- Star Trek, Enterprise: Archer/T'Pol
- X-men, anygoddamnversefuckyouall I am a sap of monumental proportions: Jean/Scott
- X-men, 1602: Warren/Scott
- X-men anyuniverse, really, but definitely 1602 and New: Scott/Xavier
- X-men, Age of Apocalypse: Scott/Alex.
- X-men animated series: Rogue/Gambit. I cut my teeth on this as a baby.
- DCverse: Bruce/Dick. There is just no doubt about this. I'm convinced that even if Bruce was too ornery to actually ever throw it to him, Dick would jerk off about it regularly and at the top of his teenage lungs at the Wayne Mansion.
- DCverse: Bruce/Cassandra Cain This is like the even scarier sequel to the first. It's like how Children of the Corn 2 was much scarier than Children of the Corn? THE CHILDREN ARE EVEN MORE FRIGHTENING NOW.
- DCverse: Bruce/Clark
- Star Wars: Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan, holy God. OT8.
- Star Wars: Anakin/Obi-Wan, surprisingly enough. Ewan McGregor singlehandedly sold me on the depth of Obi-Wan's devotion to his stupid apprentice in RotS. He loved that boy, he loved that boy, he loved that damn boy, and Anakin just has it in the worst way for Obi-Wan. Nevertheless, when I try to think of actual Anakin/Obi-Wan and not Anakin slinking around in a torrent of manic-ragic infatuation, my head just bends and starts doing that Warp 10 stuttering approach from Star Trek.
- Star Wars: Qui-Gon/Dooku. Start laughing at me, and I'll cry. I swear to God, I'll cry.
- Firefly: Simon/River
- SportsNight: Casey/Dan
- SportsNight: Natalie/Jeremy
- Narnia: Peter/Susan
- Narnia: Fenrir/Edmund
- Narnia: Peter/Edmund
- Karekano: Asaba/Arima yes goddammit you know it happened.
- Boondock Saints: Murphy/Connor.
- Boondock Saints: Mama McManus/Daddy McManus.
- Igby Goes Down: Ollie/Igby
- Igby Goes Down: Ollie/Sookie
- Igby Goes Down: Igby/Sookie
... and probably 3000000000 fandoms I'm forgetting. I have been in entirely too many in the course of my life. *_*
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Date: 2005-08-12 06:01 am (UTC)And oh my god, Jean/Scott = my otp of all time now, I swear. They're gorgeous. I can't wait for the return of that pairing in mainstream marvel. *kicks NXM mindchange, kicks Emma*
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Date: 2005-08-12 06:16 am (UTC)*heads to bed now, will continue this conversation should you choose to continue it, tomorrow*
Date: 2005-08-12 06:19 am (UTC)And for a period of time, I RP'd a whole, whole lot of crazy teenage Jean who spent a lot of time making the exact expression in your icon. She'd had Scott adn the Professor entirely to herself for two years! And now there were all these bitches who were coming into the mansion and trying to take her man!
Maybe this explains my extreme allergic reaction to Emma/Scott.
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Date: 2005-08-12 06:25 am (UTC)I have an extreme allergic reaction. *TWITCHES* Have you seen the latest HoM? Scott finds out he's married to Emma and throws up. :D
I just love Jean/Scott. Their psionic bond. The way they went to Alaska to start a family, pre-The Twelve. Raising Cable in the futureverse. The fact HE DREAMED OF HER IN THE ORPHANAGE. Their vows. The whole epic nature of their romance. The scene on the plateau, of course. Jean and Cable going off to find Scott when he was possessed. Charles telling Jean that she must love Scott with all her heart. Scott's shy holding back in the early days. Jean having all these boys fawn over her, but only loving Scott. The way she makes fun of him all the time! Pulling him in to fight on the Astral Plane when they're trying to save Nathan from the TO virus, because the two of them are practically one, and they have the strongest bond of all.
And anyway, Joss Whedon has said, re: S/E, that "every man has to fall for the wrong woman once". ONCE. And she's WRONG for him. (Plus, uh, Joss? Huge fanboy for S/J. This bodes well. :D)
... I was in bed. And then I woke up. I swear, last set of comments tonight.
Date: 2005-08-12 07:02 am (UTC)But yeah. See, the greatness of the canon aside and my raging innerJean notwithstanding, my essential fangirl nature of Scott Summers shows through with S/J. By all accounts, before he arrives at the School, even though he's got all the genetic and emotional qualities to just be the most PERFECT BOY EVER, Scott has had a shite life. It's just a seriously, seriously, seriously shite life, and goddammit, I want his life to be perfect in one respect.
And Jean. Man. When I heard about the dreaming in the orphanage? That was it. The possibilities of seeing through telepathy? The way their leadership styles and goal-driven personalities complement each other? My heart was set on Scott, poor Scott, getting with the girl who is literally the girl of his dreams and living happily after. That would be, after all, THE JUST AND DECENT THING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE CHRIST HIS LIFE HAS SUCKED.
Alas, this is comic land, and it is not to be, so I suffer through many stabs of the heart and the face and God, have you read the Exiles comic where they go to the timeline right before the Phoenix Saga?
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Date: 2005-08-12 07:10 am (UTC)You're absolutely right. Scott has, without a doubt, the most disasterous life you could ever possibly imagine. AND IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE. And Jean, god, he just *deserves* her, and they should be together across time and realities. I haven't read that Exiles comic - Exiles is actually one thing I've never even glanced at, alas.
I just. I can't get over my love for S/J. I RP them all the time for
<333333333333333333, man.
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Date: 2005-08-12 12:39 pm (UTC)The serie skinda goes to shit later on, but if you like Scott Summers meta, the first two arcs are pretty good and worth digging up. *is about to leave on vacation, but will dig them up for you when she get sback if you want*
AND. Yes. Forward the links and shit along becauser glh;difdj!
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Date: 2005-08-12 07:16 am (UTC)*sighs, will have to do the OH SO ONEROUS task of getting up to date*
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Date: 2005-08-12 08:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-08-12 12:40 pm (UTC)I love the resurgence of River/Summer icons so much omg.
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Date: 2005-08-12 04:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-08-12 06:11 am (UTC)Also, Scott/Xavier, yes. I'm probably reading too much Essential X-Men and whatever, but man. Xavier is the dude who found him, brought him in off the streets, gave him a home, an education, and depending on which version you read, some degree of real control over this insanely destructive power. I don't care how strong and tough you are -- there's going to be some massive emotional dependence/incestyness there.
And we know that Xavier isn't exactly the most ethically perfect of guys. So.
*added Alex/Scott from AoA, by the way, despite the AWFUL hair*
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Date: 2005-08-12 06:20 am (UTC)Hmm. I've never seen the slash potential between them - father and son, without a doubt. But I'm such a sucker for how close they are. Have you seen the old-old-oldschool stuff, when like, they read the paper together every morning, and Scott falls asleep with his head in Xavier's lap, etc? Gorgeous. I think there's huge emotional dependence, at least on Scott's behalf. :D
Oh god, the hair.
falls asleep with his head in xavier's lap. WHAT MORE DO I HAVE TO SAY?
Date: 2005-08-12 07:15 am (UTC)See, the arguments that I usually hear about Emma/Scott being more healthy are ones that you've probably heard too -- 1) Scott/Jean is a "childhood" thing, and Scott/Emma is the grownups and 2)Scott/Jean is fundamentally unsound because of the reliance on the psionic link. It depends on this false, telepathic sense of intimacy as opposed to "real" intimacy. When that telepathic bond breaks down, they go kaput. Scott/Emma is better because Emma doesn't just give him the could shoulder when they have problems.
Also because, um, she can keep her vagina to herself and doesn't go ho'ing it around, at least not yeat God, let me tell you how much that shit with Jean made me want to beat my head into the wall.
Ultimately, in the end, I guess I can see how people prefer Emma/Scott or whatever. It is not, however, my flavoring of choice, food group, general nutritional methodology, etc. JUST LET ME BLOW THE DIAMOND BITCH UP AND GET BACK TO MY REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM PLZZZZZZ
Endsong, man. Is the crack that I can't bear to ignore but can't bear to rationally process.
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Date: 2005-08-12 08:45 am (UTC)Yeah - I've heard that first one, though not the second. And what the HELL, Emma doesn't give him the cold shoulder when they have problems? Buh? I... what? Emma's happier than Jean to let him bottle things. Jean's the one who always >:0ed at him and made him actually tell her what was wrong, a lot of the time. In NXM, especially, when she just dressed him down for being self-centred. And the fact remains that Scott. Was. Mindchanged. Into. Being. With. Emma. Gah.
And omg, I may have to quote you on my userinfo for that part. :D!
Endsong... has... some good moments. The Phoenix saying that Jean longs for Scott. Scott pretending that Emma is Jean. The final moment of goodbye between Scott and Jean - the let me see your eyes, where I think it's pretty obvious that they're still all *floaty hearts* about each other, and always will be. But it felt too much like a HEY LOOK SCOTT/EMMA IS GREAT bandwagon for my taste.
so unholily rambly omfg.
Date: 2005-08-12 02:32 pm (UTC)Whereas Emma has a much more limited history. She was an evil baddie, and now she's not. She was a hobag, and she's still kind of a hobag, but she's in love with Scott and a teacher.
Anyways.
I think what people are referring to re: the bottling up and stuff is, like, mostly based on the New X-men. Scott and Jean are having serious motherfucking issues -- Scott can't talk to her about, like, anything, whereas Emma is practically banging down the walls of his brain, trying to get him to dish to her.
There's also that part from Phoenix Endsong (issue 2? all I know is that it's the issue I read and screamed AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH PAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNn becuase it features them in bed and them re-enacting that plateau scene and God, let me just tell you the shitfit I threw right there because "your beams won't hurt me, Scott." HELLO? They're concussive force beams, you cunt writers, not some kind of LASER BEAM; they shoulda torn her arms from their sockets or, at their very least, flipped that bitch head over teakettle, welcome to the laws of PHYSICS for this REALITY and omg longest parenthetical ever) where Scott curls up against her and says something like the fact that she'd keep after him and talk to him is why he loves her.
And you know. I can see this, in threads besides the ones that prominently feature E/S. Jean has a much more refined sense of personal space and privacy. Emma doesn't. It's the fundamental Essence d'Emma, whereas Jean is the chick who went nuts because she kept hearing other people's voices in her head. And like, in the original stories at the very beginning, right? The swirling angst-pits from the very beginning where Jean was like OMG I CANNOT TELL SCOTT MY LOVE FOR HIM :/ :/ :/ and Scott is like WAAAAAAAAAAAH SHE'LL NEVER LOVE THE FREAK WITH THE RED EYES :( :( :( They don't get toghet for, like, umpty billion years in the original because of communicatoin issues.
The best argument I've heard about communication-issue S/E v. S/J is that it's fundamentally fux0red because of the role that Jean has as Scott's dream-girl. She's, like, a standard that he has to live up to, and what with the way Scott is all about DOING THE RIGHT THING and LIVING UP TO EXPECTATIONS, I can totally grasp why he'd feel an almost pathological need to shut her out. I think it's fixable and, in their better times, Scott isn't so demented about Jean, but.
Goddamn, I love S/J.
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Date: 2005-08-12 06:19 am (UTC)learning my new thing for today...
Date: 2005-08-12 06:41 am (UTC)And what about canon plausibility in Cloud/Sephiroth? Is it that it's so implausible that it could never happen but you ship it anyway, or that it's so plausible and fuck those bitches who don't realise it? Just idle curiosity...
*writes you thesis*
Date: 2005-08-12 06:51 am (UTC)When I'm feeling rational about Cloud/Sephiroth, it's "look, why is it so implausible that originalCloud hooked up with Sephiroth at some point and had serious amounts of superkinky, superhot subordinate/superior sex that then gains additional emotional resonance in light of later events?" When I'm feeling really rational about Cloud/Sephiroth, I realize just how far outside of canon that kind of relationship would be (i.e.: canon implausible), and I feel embarrassed that I want something that "could never happen."
Somewhere between just feeling rational and feeling really rational, though, it's PLAUSIBLE AND FUCK YOU BITCHES AND GOD IT HAS SUCH AWESOME HOT PORN/META POTENTIAL! >:O
Don't mind my previous inability to click the right link...
Date: 2005-08-12 07:03 am (UTC)Also, if Cloud/Sephiroth never happened, and Cloud had no interest in him, why the heck did he show up shirtless at the final battle inside Cloud's little messed-up head? Just saying. Besides, if Tifa's figure is canon, then Cloud/Sephiroth must be, because it's way more plausible than her being able to balance (and much less fight) with that thing.
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Date: 2005-08-12 08:06 am (UTC)wrinkled old man testicles can be cute; they'll just look like naked, sagging wriggly mice or something
This just like traumatized me for life. I think normal non-old-men tesitcles are gross looking enough, but. Ew! Gah! Don't write out things I can't unread.
And I completely agree with all your DC Batman pairings, especially Bruce/Cass... so much love for that pairing... However, for your X-Men pairings? I wouldn't put Jean with anyone, because we hates her, precious...
Aaaand, the Narnia mention got me thinking, if you're still here when it comes out (you might not be, cause I think it's a Christmas-y release), we should go see that. .. That's kind of a given, though.
TESTICLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Date: 2005-08-12 12:45 pm (UTC)And omg. Bruce/Cass makes my brain implide in wrong delight. Because OMG. Cass with her father issues and Bruce with his KID issues and the whole ball o'wrong that is. Do you have any recs? I haven't really found fic for them, but I haven't really gone looking too hard. *_*
Simon/River is one of my all-time favorite pairings. SIMON!!!! and RIVER!!!!!!!! TOGETHER!!!!!! And being all Tam-esque!
>:0!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 2005-08-12 04:53 pm (UTC)LOL! That's fine... ;)
Cass with her father issues and Bruce with his KID issues and the whole ball o'wrong that is.
I know.. why are all the Batman characters SO DYSFUNCTIONAL?? Hehe
Do you have any recs? I haven't really found fic for them, but I haven't really gone looking too hard. *_*
Same here.. I don't know anyone who's written them. Hm...
Simon/River is one of my all-time favorite pairings. SIMON!!!! and RIVER!!!!!!!! TOGETHER!!!!!! And being all Tam-esque!
OMG just.. wait for the movie... afhjasgdfahasRHJWEDKL.. *implodes*
:D
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Date: 2005-08-12 02:36 pm (UTC)And God, Anakin on-screen. Take the good, forget the bad. Take the good, forget the bad. That's my motto -- along with "forget the entire realm of craaaaaaaaaaaaptastic fic that makes me want to purge in the bathroom toilet."
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Date: 2005-08-12 05:17 pm (UTC)Anakin. Hm. He did end up quite pretty, I never thought it was possible after AotC, I thought he looked horrible there. Even prettier when evil, so I guess that's something. And he is rather amusing in the whole 'Dark Side is just another teenage temper tantrum away' poutiness, though it also kinda ruined Darth Vader for me. I can't watch the original trilogy without thinking, 'but hah, behind the evil shiny mask, you're just one whiny dumbass.'
Haven't really read much fic, I like thinking of Obi-wan's misguided devotion, and Anakin's unformed, possesive feelings about Obi-wan, but I'm not sure if I want to read about them going at it. Especially not if there are lightsaber metaphors and tantric Force sex and such.
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Date: 2005-08-12 02:20 pm (UTC)So true, sadly. Puppy-shipping should be dark and depresssing, not fluffy bunnies all around.
X-men, 1602: Warren/Scott
So canon it's not even funny, at least from Warren's side.
Star Wars: Qui-Gon/Dooku. Start laughing at me, and I'll cry. I swear to God, I'll cry
Have you actually written this? Because... wow, I love the Jedi and their fucked up pseudo-familial, quasi-incestuous relationships.
i love 1602 warren. holy god.
Date: 2005-08-12 02:43 pm (UTC)And ;lfkj;glidfh. Qui-Gon/Dooku is the secret, burning pairing of my heart. Everytime a hint of it comes up in roleplay scenes with Dilly, she goes o.o, but man. I'm telling you. There is some fic to be written there. It's the sheer crack of imagining baby Qui-Gon together with the sheer crack of Dooku-before-he-went-really-bad!
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Date: 2005-08-12 02:52 pm (UTC)their relationship is about as fluffy as a fist to the face.
Exactly. But people relentlessly fluff it up.
It's the sheer crack of imagining baby Qui-Gon together with the sheer crack of Dooku-before-he-went-really-bad!
You've seen that comic scan of a scene from when Qui-Gon was a padawan, I take it? The one where he's standing beside Dooku, looking skinny and half-grown and entirely too puppy-cute in a haircut that I always thought was *designed* to look atrocious on *any* human being.
God, if you ever do finish it up, that'll be so much fun.
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Date: 2005-08-12 02:55 pm (UTC)Qui-Gon is a surprisingly tractable to being written into patches of cute. He really is.
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Date: 2005-08-12 03:02 pm (UTC)It's GOT to be a comic scan, but I have no idea where from. Doesn't Qui-Gon look like a puppy, possibly from some large herding breed? And see, he got that reassuring-hand-on-shoulder habit from Dooku?
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Date: 2005-08-12 09:51 pm (UTC)Kakashi/Kabuto (oh, it shames and burns, it burns)
The former slightly traumatizes me, but amuses me greatly at the same time. Have you written a Tom/Dumbledore fic? I'd looooove to read it
The latter would be delicious (please write it)
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Date: 2005-08-19 03:47 pm (UTC)And Kakashi/Kabuto. *sighs dreamily* I love Naruto pairings, but I can't write them or even think about them coherently outside of Itachi/his best friend.
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